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Andujar Outmatches Federer in Geneva

Roger Federer lost a 4-2 advantage in the final set as he slipped to defeat against fellow veteran Pablo Andujar.

Roger Federer's first outing in Geneva at ATP level didn't breed success as he succumbed to a 4-6, 6-4, 4-6 defeat to Pablo Andujar.

Federer was playing his first match since March 11th in Doha, and despite a slow start, found himself 4-2 up in the decider before the Spaniard battled back to win four games in a row.

Recording victory in one hour and 52 minutes and disappointing the sparse corporate only crowd at the Parc des Eaux-Vives.

The premature end to Federer's tournament means he'll head into Roland Garros with just one clay-court match under his belt and now must consider how he can get enough match play to be a serious contender on the grass.

Quick Match Recap

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Andujar won the toss and elected to serve. A solid start from the Spaniard saw him hold to fifteen, dictating with his forehand after Federer's groundstrokes dropped short.

Federer levelled after a deuce game for 1-1, but it was Andujar looking the sharper of the two, firing another love hold for 2-1.

Federer made his first inroads on the return in game five, with 15-30, but Andujar held to lead 3-2.

Federer was forced to serve to stay in the set, and despite neither playing holding breakpoints in the first nine games, he faltered, firing down a poor service game that finished with a shanked forehand.

Into set two, and Federer's decision to take up a Nadal like position on the return instantly bore fruit as he broke to lead 2-1.

That kickstarted the Swiss, and a speedy hold to love saw him consolidate for 3-1.

With that boost of confidence, Federer maintained his advantage, finding his range on the serve + forehand to lead 5-3.

Andujar held for 4-5, but Federer landed his first ace of the match en route to levelling at one set all.

The first game of the decider saw Federer create 15-30 with some nice variety, but Andujar held for 1-0.

Federer fashioned two break points in game three after pouncing with his forehand, but Andujar saved them to make deuce.

A third followed, and Federer converted, hanging tough in a rally then scampering to make a forehand pass after Andujar had tracked down a drop shot.

Federer fired down a love hold to consolidate and soon found himself 4-2 up to put himself in touching distance.

However, plans for the third round were premature as Andujar came up with some solid hitting to break back for 4-4.

A hold to fifteen then put the Spaniard up 5-4 up, and like set one, Federer couldn't find his range, missing a couple of routine balls, and despite saving two match points, a shank on the third allowed Andujar to move into the last eight.

Match Stats

  Roger Federer Pablo Andujar
Aces 3 6
Double Faults 0 1
1st Serve 59% (48/81) 69% (58/84)
1st Serve Points Won 77% (37/48) 74% (43/58)
2nd Serve Points Won 58% (19/33) 62% (16/26)
Break Points Saved 40% (2/5) 50% (2/4)
Service Games Played 15 15
1st Serve Return Points Won 26% (15/58) 23% (11/48)
2nd Serve Return Points Won 38% (10/26) 42% (14/33)
Break Points Converted 50% (2/4) 60% (3/5)
Return Games Played 15 15
Service Points Won 69% (56/81) 70% (59/84)
Return Points Won 30% (25/84) 31% (25/81)
Total Points Won 49% (81/165) 51% (84/165)

Highlights

Thoughts on the Match

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It’s good to be back on the court, but then you lost a match like this and you’re down. It never feels great. I was looking forward to playing here, no doubt about it. But this is a press conference where I have to explain how I feel about losing, which is never the greatest way of trying to explain why and how it all happened. But of course, there were moments where I was really happy to entertain the crowd and I was looking at the long road that I’ve been on from the comeback. Sure, it’s rewarding to be back on a tennis court. But I expect better from myself. I feel like in practice I’ve been playing better, even in practice here. But then again as we know, matches are a different animal. I’ve got my work cut out there. Federer on his loss to Andujar in Geneva.

So just one match for Federer in Geneva, and while you can't call it a huge upset, it's a bit of a surprise loss given Fed was able to go 4-2 up in the deciding set.

I thought he started exceptionally slowly in the first set and was struggling to find the court. There were no long rallies and way too many mistimed balls from Federer that went wayward or landed short in the court. Andujar is too good for that and mopped up accordingly.

Federer obviously recognised that and decided to stand deep on the return in set two, giving himself time and the chance to take full swings to get the ball in play.

Andujar doesn't possess any huge shots to really dominate on serve, and he's the type of player that will let you build a rhythm, so once Federer chose to start more rallies at neutral, he was able to find a groove and began to enjoy some success from the baseline.

That continued for the entirety of the second set and the first seven games of the third, but Andujar flipped it around, coming up with some solid hitting to break back and then taking advantage of Federer's misses to win their first-ever encounter.

Of course, at 4-2 in the third you feel like, ‘Oh, that’s nice that I was able to turn around the match.’ You start feeling better and that’s when it dips and everything is over 10 minutes later. But we know how tennis goes and that’s where it’s so brutal sometimes. But I feel like I didn’t deserve it at the end. There was just not enough happening in my game. I just could feel that as the moment was getting tougher, the game wasn’t there. Obviously, I was missing way too much maybe to come through even though I was up 4-3 and a break. The chances were all there. But again I thought he played good down the stretch and I just couldn’t come up with the goods. Federer on why he lost to Andujar

Final Thoughts

  • Looked fine physically
  • Served well in patches
  • Offensive footwork to turn backhands into forehands working well
  • Defensive work a little stabby / lungey

What did you guys think of the match? Let me know in the comments.

Jonathan

Huge fan of Roger Federer. I watch all his matches from Grand Slam level right down to ATP 250. When I'm not watching or writing about tennis I play regularly myself and have a keen interest in tactics, equipment and technicalties of the sport.

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  1. Played well in the 2nd and most of the 3rd but again proved himself the master of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory — he is the complete antithesis of Nadal right now. I really think he should play Parma or Belgrade next week otherwise he’s just not going to get the games under his belt not only for the FO, but the grass too.

    1. Indeed. Today was typical Fed: play tennis, just for a while, with a flair nobody else has ever played it with -> set up victory for yourself by doing so -> shoot yourself in the foot and hand victory to your opponent. The saving grace today? He managed to lose *without* holding MPs.

      His performance from when he broke in set 2 until he was broken in set 3 was vintage stuff. The same beautiful aggression, the same hypnotic rhythm, the same quickfire service games, the same swordcut-like slice, the same this-is-how-it-should-be kind of volleys and overheads, the same shanks, the same shaky-as-a-stone-on-a-cone power-through backhand. It reminded me why watching him is a treat , why he’s as beloved as he is, and *also* why he’s got a losing H2H versus both Nadal and Djokovic.

      But he’s always been this way while Nadal’s always been “the fighter” (beginning with beginning that against the Fed). In an ironic, not-so-funny way, it’s part of what makes him the most complete player to have played the game in the post-wooden-racquet era. And I mean *complete* in every sense of the word. That includes highlights (and lowlights) – including most matches lost after holding MPs; most matches lost after holding MPs; losing matches where he was clearly the better player and won more points; creating the most break chances anybody has created against, say, Djokovic (when the Djoker was at his best(; having the highest percentage (in history) of points won in matches lost; having the highest winners-per-match in recorded history (though I need to check this); having a points dominance ratio of 1.02 against the Djoker across their 50 matches (despite a losing H2H); having a PD ratio > 1 against every player except Nadal (even when he’s down in the H2H – like versus Thiem or Zverev); being the only player to ever hold MPs against Nadal in a 5-set match that went the distance (Rome 2006); being the only player to reach the final of all 4 slams in a year at least 3 times; having the first and second longest slam-finals streak in history (10 and 8); being the only player to have bagelled Nadal on clay, hard, and grass; being the only player to have beaten Djokovic in straight sets during his wondrous 2015 (three times!) … and on and on and on.

      1. Indeed. Andujar played solid throughout. But Fed did what it seems only he can do: come back from a set down, find a nice groove for himself, be up a break in the final set and then somehow contrive to lose the match. It’s not dissimilar to what happened in Shanghai 2019 vs Zverev – where you thought that unbelievable turnaround in set 2 (after saving 5 MPs) would give him the momentum to go on to win. Instead, he lost the 3rd set quite meekly.

        But this see-sawing has become a part of his game now. I mean, he was always profligate – throwing away BPs left and right not to mention MPs – but he was younger and more conistent at the time. Now, every time he has to drive through his backhand, I hold my breath and hope it’ll land in. It’s become that unreliable (and that was seen yesterday too). His FH, though, is still a “money shot” (some of yesterday’s were terrific), but it’s also begun to falter under pressure.

        By the way, a large part of the profligacy I mentioned was down to the Fed’s (stubborn?) tendency to play those BPs either no differently from those that led up to it or, worse, more safely and more passively. Seldom did he do what most others players do: become aggressive. His “dissing” of the Djoker for hitting that winning FH return in 2011 at 15-40 down had to do with his attitude towards the game – which seems to be that no point is more important than any other and should be afforded the same respect and played with the same nous as the others. It’s not *such* a bad strategy if you’re “nerveless” (like the Djoker often seems to be), but it’s a less-than-ideal strategy for someone like the Fed who very obviously battles nerves. In fact, if I was being a little nasty-but-honest, I’d say that Fed’s tactics have been quite poor for a large part of his career (and become poorer as he’s grown older) – I’d give it a 3-3.5/5 in comparison to a 4.5-4.75/5 for talent.

  2. Stay on point. Don’t panic and don’t change anything. The French Open is Best of 5 with a day of rest in between marches. If he can get to the 4th round – it would be considered a great tournament…

    Go Fed!

  3. Very disappointing, even if we should not expect anything more from our man and should just be grateful for everything that comes bye..

  4. Federer was nervous almost all the time, not ready to hit hard enough or accurate enough. His body language was not the one of a winner. Will’s comparison to Nadal is right, but this was always so. Fed was dominating by his skills. It’s easy to have fighting spirit, if you have such skills plus you are fit and healthy and confident. Skills are still there, but nothing more. Poor movement, missing confidence (imagine he would play Fucsovics, who is a class better than Andujar. Ore one of young guns, just hitting flat and hard and not having any respect (in terms of missing belief, they have a chance to win).
    I don’t see a chance, he wins a single match in Paris. Maybe better to skip it and play an additional grass tournament on grass before Halle? What if he loses in Paris in first or even second round, then loses in 1. or 2. round in Halle. What would be his preparation for Wimbledon? If not Wimbledon (Olympics is in a deep fog), what then? US Open, again without match practice? And then – retirement while losing everything? Not a good idea, how someone like Federer should retire.

    1. Yes, his body language didn’t look great.

      I think he should play Paris, as he is only going to factor in the first week, so he could still play Stuttgart if he wanted to.

      He should probably play Parma or Belgrade just to get some more real practice.

      1. Better Belgrade, so he has chance to meet Djoker in SF or F 😉 Or simply have a practice and nice chat with him, hahaha

  5. So, comebacks are hard. The only way to get match fit is to play matches, & of course you have to win some to get continued practice at it. Glad he seems fit. He did mention endurance being a problem at Doha – was that in one of the recent German interviews? – so I wonder if that’s part of the issue here. Andujar was really up for the match & was able to sustain his own energy. Just seemed like Fed had a match skills freeze at just the wrong moment.

    Don’t know what I think he should do; the problem with trying to add another event next week is that if he does well, then he doesn’t get the needed off week before RG. I kind of wish he had stayed in Geneva at least for a day or so & got in a few more practice sets with Tour guys. Of course maybe people like Marin have already left too.

    I’m encouraged by how he turned it around from set 1 to set 2. As he said – “I can play tennis again”. Small steps, I guess.

    1. Yes, he said he feels fitter than in Doha.

      I don’t think endurance was the issue here though, it wasn’t a physical match really, first set barely had any rallies.

      I think he should play next week, he needs to get some familiarity back instead of this stop-start business.

      1. Maybe he feels better than in Doha, but he was looking better in Doha. Maybe because of surface.

      2. That’s good to know – some people elsewhere seemed to think he was out of gas during those last few games.

    2. Like Jonathan and a couple others have said, I think he should play another 250 before going to the French. I mean, he’s more or less just said that he’s going there to make up the numbers…so why not try to play as many matches by playing in Belgrade or Parma and then at the French.

      Let’s say, hypothetically and extremely optimistically, that he goes all the way to the final in Belgrade and gets to at least the quarterfinals in RG. That means 1+ 4 + 5 = 10 matches before Halle; which is the number of matches he said he’d need before he could tell where his game was at.

      Playing and losing in R1 and R2 in the French, then panicking about lack of match play and choosing to play both Stuggart and Halle (and not making the finals in either) before going to Wimbledon will mean that he’s both rusty from lack of match-play and not confident (as a result of several early losses). That’s hardly what he’d want, is it?

      1. If he has no winning expectations, he should play every tournament since now until Wimbledon (included).
        Maybe it’s the injury still sitting in the mind. For me he looked scared and was limiting his moves, so he mostly didn’t reach good positions for the shots.
        If it’s mental, you need to play so much you can to reset your injury memory.
        Fed may be feeling well, but once the opponent decides, where he has to move, he has no more control over his mind and the fear because of potential pain and what it means a.s.o. is starting to rule. Very specific kind of rust.
        I guess, his team limits his movement even in practices, being aware of the risk and not able to assess or control it. They are professionals, but can’t guess what happens in Fed’s brain and if it’s subconscious, even Fed cannot control this.
        The competitive match has the advantage, at some point you forget your automatic cautions and then you are switched to another condition – you are not scared anymore. I have some experience with my own tennis injuries and have learned this. If you feel, you better avoid sliding, you should consciously overload the affected part of the body. The deletion of the pain memory occurs automatically. You must only take a (mental) risk once. But I guess, Paganini knows this and it was not forgotten. But it’s not the same, if you play competitive match. You cannot say at any time. OK, it’s enough for today or I need 3 minutes break a.s.o.

  6. That’s a pity for Roger, a good opportunity to get a few matches under his belt gone. That’s the danger when you give yourself only a few opportunities to find form. I think the French Open is now very important as it’s the last chance to harden himself up for the grass court season which is now right around the corner. He’s leaving it late…

  7. Hmm, yes, I thought people were being a bit over-hopeful suggesting semis were possible. Disappointing that he could get so close to the finish line but then get overtaken, though. Remember how much of a struggle Stan Wawrinka had after coming back from a long surgery layoff? It takes a while to get back into the mentality of what you need to do to win matches – and as Thinker says, time is what he’s a bit short of, if he can only make it through the odd round in tournaments. I’m wondering whether he should skip RG and go for Stuttgart to get more practice on grass.

    But what on earth was wrong with his first serve? In the first set, it was down at 38% at one point!

  8. I thought he might struggle against a grinding consistent Spanish clay courter. Wld hv preferred an error prone Thommo or Cilic. The pressure of having to be shot resilient on his first match back was too great.
    Shld he play Serbia or Parma? Hard to say. He’s stubborn so I expect not. Hopefully gets a kind draw in Paris but I expect nothing tbh. This is a harder than hard comeback. More likely we get something in the Autumn when he is still fresh and everyone else is exhausted. One title would be nice 👍

    1. I think he should play Parma or Belgrade. Get back into the groove of the tour a bit rather than stop-start.

      Although given all the bubble, testing garbage, it’s going to be rather unappealing.

  9. Will he get any kind of consistency back? That is key for me. In all 3 matches so far in 2021 his level can switch up and down in the click of your fingers.
    He used to make the Quarters at a slam without even dropping serve quite regularly. He could be so consistent. Now he can look a different player from 10 minutes to the next. And to be honest that has been a problem from Wimbledon 2019 onwards. That was the last time he was consistent match after match.
    If I had to predict Wimbledon 2021 I think he will be 2 sets to 1 up and flying, looking like he has all the momentum, but half an hour later he’ll be a break down in the decider.

    1. 3 matches is too small a sample size to tell at the moment.

      Bit like saying he’s won 0 matches since he was supposedly vaccinated 😁

      1. Fed was vaccinated? Are you kidding? Or you have some information? If he was vaccinated after Doha and not with Janssen (1 dose), he could not be free from aftereffects right now.

      2. He said so in his pre-tournament interview. Pfizer.

        Of course, this could just be PR to avoid further questioning on it. As it’s completely unverifiable.

      3. It is indeed verifiable. If he is vaccinated, will not sit in the bubble next tournament. Whatever everyone thinks about the existence of the virus and pandemia, its is (like some tennis players are used to say) what it is. And the only real choice is: to get vaccinated and be free from bubbles or reject the vaccine and live 1-2 next years (or more) in the bubbles, at least in tournaments.
        So long I know, many countries organize special vaccination programs for athletes qualified for Olympics, no matter what anyone think about the chance they will be held this year. If so, it will be probably a must to be vaccinated.
        Pfizer is told to be the best from all available vaccines (maybe Sputnik is comparable).

  10. I suppose the hardest part is to know how much work he put into the comeback. So many “oldies” struggling to play the game they love.
    It’s sad that Roger didn’t get more matches under his belt. If he can’t play with the best of them, I can’t see his interest in playing into 2022 being there.
    We did see some brilliant shot making though!

  11. I’m with Vily–the second week of RG would be an amazing result given his current level.

    There’s no point trying to cram in more matches before RG and risk overplaying and burning out with the grass season on the horizon. He and we might wish he had more prep going into the Grand Slam tournament that’s least forgiving on his style of play, but it is what it is.

    Anyway, he has better chances in Grand Slams–Bo5 is a different animal, it’s harder for his opponents to sustain a level where they can just blow him off the court and over five sets his greater match experience comes into play. If this had been Bo5 Federer would have most likely won in five sets. And on clay, precisely because the surface is so homogeneous, the server has less of an advantage, and Federer has so much more time to read the ball and decide how to respond, I actually feel there’s a smaller chance of a shock upset than on grass, where the margin for error is so tiny that if his footwork and timing are just a little off, he ends up losing to a big server or a net-rusher in the early rounds a la 2013 or 2018.

    I think he’s just taking it match by match and seeing what happens. It’s not like there’s anything else he can do. The wins will come when they come, you can’t rush things. C’mon Roger!

    1. How can you burn yourself out when you’ve only played 3 matches this year? 😁

      While Bo5 is of course much different, I don’t think he’d have beaten Andujar in 5 sets at all. He wasn’t blown off the court, he was asked to come up with one more shot and couldn’t put the ball in the court.

      There is definitely less chance of an upset on clay, and today wasn’t really an upset IMO. I expected Fed to win but Andujar is #72 and a clay specialist, Federer’s ranking would be like #400 if they weren’t frozen.

  12. Fed spoiled us in 2017 with a miracle comeback.

    2 surgeries and over 2X the absence and 4 years later is a horse of a different color.

    I don’t know what to expect going forward, but it’s certainly not going to be 2017.

    Wishing Fed the best and still hoping for more titles somehow.

  13. I didnot expect to see roger go deep in clay after long break but lose in 1st match is still little shock to me i thought he will out in next round he look not play that badly but seem like he has no answer when 1st serve is missing and he need to win baseline game
    not expect much in RG hope for 3rd round or more then see how he play in halle

  14. Hey all, too bad that Roger lost, he should have won the match, but Andujar didn’t come to lose. He played good and won. Good for him. If it was not “out for almost 1,5 years due to injury”-Roger, then we all know Andujar wouldn’t have won 🙂

    But no worries. We are patient. Roger got the surgeries done. His records are being broken left and right, so all he has to do is play, enjoy it and win ofcourse. He is nog giving up, not retiring and certainly not on a goodbye tour.

    Faith in the Goat guys. He is human, not a machine, needs time and matches to go ahead.
    I have not given up hope 🙂
    But I do agree, he has practised a lot, now just play matches. Even if it means doing tours you normally never would do. He is not back at winning matches easily (like 2017), but let’s be honest, his three matches since his injury last year were not exactly bagles by the opponent right? He won one match and lost two close ones…
    He still got it…. but he needs to built it up and win one match at a time.
    One point, one game, one set, one match at a time. We have all the time in the world 🙂
    And let’s be honest, Roger is playing, we all missed him and tennis is nowhere real tennis when he is not around.
    Especially since there is no Berdych and Ferrer anymore and no Stan and Andy…
    Just boring…

    Roger needs time, he HAS time and the game to win, no matter what people think…. No worries… the Goat got this 🙂

    1. Of course, back in 2017 he had Hopman Cup to hone his play on – there’s nothing like that here. Plus of course he’d been off for far less time.

      What do you think about playing doubles in a small tournament somewhere? Less pressure, less court to cover, and a chance to improve the playing mentality without it mattering so much?

      1. Hmmm, it’s like preparing for chess to play football 😉 Would be better to play Challengers, but where is the time for that? Parma/Belgrade would be an option, but what if he exits in first round again? Would be hard to digest mentally. Better to go for The French without expectations. At least 3 sets guaranteed 🙂
        The whole situation is very difficult. Time is passing by faster in this age. Especially for athletes, having sooo much in the bones. Either a miracle happens or it goes painfully down. Calling 2017 means pumping yourself with hopes. This does no damage to Fed but also does not help.

  15. Can’t Federer choose to go through qualifications to The French? Would get some match practice on-site. Against lower ranked guys. In case he would not qualify, he can always ask for a wild card 😉

    1. Request that his spot in the draw gets given to the next direct and instead he takes a spot in qualifying.

      No idea about the rules on that would be fun though. I’d like to see it. The sport is dull, it needs somebody to mix it up “Federer to play French Open qualifying”

      1. Probably there are no rules 😉 Hard to imagine, someone had ever so much sense of humor to play quali if he can enter the main draw directly.
        But it would be fun and not so stupid as it sounds. Federer has in any case no expectations from FO. In qualis he would have (maybe last) opportunities to play some nice guys, like Dustin Brown and some nice upcomers. Should he advance, it would be a new record in his books. Probably didn’t need to go through quali for any Grand Slam ever before??? And what a headlines. FEDERER ADVANCES TO FO MAIN DRAW FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! Hahaha …

      2. He played qualifying a few times, never at the French, though I don’t think, got a wildcard in 99 and took a set off Rafter in the first round.

      3. Federer playing qualifying in a Slam – it’s hard to imagine 😉 Did he once in Wimbledon?

  16. Should he succeed, there would a chance he plays Nadal in first round and … wins, because Nadal is not supposed to peak in first round 😉

  17. Every man from Top10 should go once a year go through qualifying in one of majors, no? It’s not always that bad as it sounds. Q or LL are sometimes outlasting top players in first rounds and the reason is obvious. Don’t remember the year, but Fed was once ousted by Q Stakhovsky in Wimby in first round, while Nadal did the same in the second round at the hands of Steve Darcis. Probably more such happenings in the history of modern tennis? Had Fed similar “luck” in a major since being Top10?

      1. Well, it was only my idea 🙁 Thiem is training now in Vienna with Massú and will rather come late to Paris, because he needs his portion of really hard training, which is not possible i Paris. Fed’s situation is different and he will maybe come Thursday, on the day of draw ceremony.
        Thiem has a specific problem (or two). He must look now for new drive after US Open. This could be to finally beat Nadal in Paris and win the title (in this order).
        But – given he is made of passion and hard work, not that much from inborn talent (if you don’t read Bresniks “Dominic Thiem Method”, you will hardly understand Thiem’s specific. It was 15 years of hardest work imaginable and he is really tired. I’m not surprised if he gives everything in Paris and then maybe retires from tennis. Shoul´ld he beat Rafa and win the title, it’s the second big goal reached. To collect records is not his element. To be pro player so long as possible, because it gives more money he could earn in another activity but he is not a celebrity-candidate.
        There is some similarity between him and Kyrgios. Kyrgios has fun and can play outstanding matches only against big opponents. Then he can tank every match against boring opponent or make half a year pause to play basketball with friends. Of course they have completely different characters and tempers 😉

      2. And with Svitolina 😉 And killing Monfils with direct shot 🙂
        But he most be in Paris for the Draw Ceremony, Media Day and others red-carpet things. Thiem must not. He is not compatible 😉

  18. Nice short interview (in French) with Marc Rosset, sport director of the Geneva Open & Fed’s longtime friend:

    https://www.lematin.ch/story/marc-rosset-roger-doit-etre-tolerant-avec-lui-meme-674878710075?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1621685005

    He talks about the tournament in general, but also a few things specifically about Roger –
    «Quand Roger était revenu en 2017 et qu’il avait tout cassé, ça n’était pas normal. La normalité, c’est ce qu’il vit maintenant»
    :: «When Roger came back in 2017 & crushed everything, that wasn’t normal. Normal is what he’s living now.»

    «Pour Roger, cela prendra du temps, il aura besoin de matches. À nous d’être patients, de ne pas le juger à chaque sortie. Quant à lui, il va falloir qu’il s’accroche, qu’il soit tolérant avec lui-même aussi. »
    :: «For Roger, it will take some time, he’ll need matches. It’s up to us to be patient, to not judge him at every outing. As for him, he needs to hang on / dig in, & to be tolerant with himself too. »

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